Shattered Kingdoms

Yes, you can resist the majority of scrolls if you have greater than a certain amount of willpower. But there is a "significant minority" where you don't resist. The mechanics of how scrolls work make this significant minority an issue.

So fine, do your tests, but remember that, say, a 1 in 4 (resisting the majority)chance of being charmed by a scroll gives a 58% chance of being charmed after 3 scroll recites - which at the moment takes very little time at all - you are more likely than not to be charmed within what, 2 or 3 rounds of combat? And charm now means death if the charmer so wishes it.

If people only have very few strong scrolls then the "decision tree" here becomes much more balanced and interesting.

And I haven't even started to address what Konge refers to.

It shouldn't be the obligation of every sorc and priest to spend so much RL time enchanting everyone's gear because of one overpowered spell. Due to my personal sympathy towards those two classes for the constant requests for favors (shrink, res, enchant, scribe, brew etc.) I never ask for enchants on any character. I think it's moronic that anyone should spend so much time in game preparing equipment in the hopes they wont get completely obliterated.

-The scrolls have a ridiculously long duration.

-The level at which CP is available is dramatically too low, with how it's being used nowadays.

If charm doesn't see a change, at least lower the ME and time costs it takes to cast enchant armor so actually preparing for it/helping others prepare isn't as much of a chore.

Nuff said.

There is always a chance that you will fail to resist a spell, always. Just because you have great deal of enchantments doesn't mean you are the Juggernaut.

Here is my question REGARDLESS if it was or was not clear to people that to do when under the effects of charm person, where was the outcry about the spell before the change? Oh that's right it was easy to break it without actually breaking it yourself. Be it a tell or just pissing off the person who had done the charming to the point they either kill you or dump you somewhere.

Has the concentration changed? Has the spell's level changed?

I believe the answer is no. Not to long ago people wouldn't even use charm person on a PC because they knew it wouldn't be long before someone "mysteriously" came a broke the spell. Now that the spell is useful it will be used again. You have no one to blame other then the people that had previously exploited the old charm person effects.

It's not empirical evidence, nor does being hit on the second cast constitute a proper test. It just seems overpowered that someone in that position gets hit by an I-win spell.

Racial bonuses count, in large part, for literally jack and [REDACTED]. If it's the racial bonus you're complaining about, as in it's stated in the help file but empirically has little to no presence in a practical sense, you're not the first, and you won't be the last.

I have seen this complaint several times. I have no way of knowing the answer, but my opinion is whatever rating racial bonuses are at is not really significant enough bonus to bother mentioning. I agree. If it says someone is resistant to charm it shouldn't be the preferred method of taking out that race. Right now races resistant to charm seem to be getting nothing from the benefit which most certainly is factored into their build and how it is balanced with other races.

Sorry for the chain, but yes, very well said. As Yoru I got sick of the cases where I had, say a magic carpet as a pet, and the MOMENT I charmed someone he threw 1 line: "OMG I H8 CARPETS", and insta-attacked my pet to cause havoc and try to break the charm. Or obey simple commands his charmer gave or whatever. During all the time I played Yoru, I tried to charm several people, and only... *drum roll please* two cases stood there and RPed charmie. Guess who were the only two charmies I never tried to harm.

Ealuriel was lying. Show an actual uninterrupted log where someone with 40 will actually has charm tested on them, not a line from some char who is probably lying to make herself seem more powerful. 40 will -IS- going to make you a juggernaut when it comes to charm. Charm isn't going to hit even 1/200 times when you have 40 will. I'm sure Dulrik can take a look at the code and confirm this.

Actually, the code won't tell you anything. Since it is the number generator that will say if you save against the spell or not. Sure the likeliness is smaller the better the enchants, but you will never be immune.