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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:28 pm 
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Arguably, you should RP with someone you triple harm, too, you know.


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RP everything, just to be sure.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:36 pm 
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You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is the Scripture of Immediate Vengeance, a tiny energy scroll,
weighing approximately 1 lbs. The scroll has strong spells of harm, harm
and harm. It is of outstanding quality and is worth approximately 450
silver.


How the F*** did this get out of my container? It was there yesterday, and I did not notice it crumble. Now I'm annoyed.


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I wish you never came back to the game! :cry: :cry:
Now when I make my afterlife post, and attribute my deletion to syn being a horrible puppy and only caring about pk and loot, people might take me seriously, and not realize I'm making fun of the 23412 people who have made similar afterlife posts.


And yes, ideally you should be rping with someone after completely wtfpwning them with charm. That doesn't mean charm isn't OP.


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The last few posts are a perfect crystallization of what I believe are the barriers to entry into this game, Charm Person being one of the "shortcuts" that is now being pruned.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:19 pm 
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Parnys wrote:
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Someone disagrees with my perfectly flawless opinion? You must be a troll, good sir!


Petrification blows and you know it. How about we just give sorcerers a Summon Elemental skill and make them as worthless as a warlock? Oh wait, at least the warlock can heal.

I still say we should just remove spell casting classes entirely and give haste/gstr to shamans.

Better yet, make Art counter MP as well so the damage spells actually do something.


Furtive_death's post had no substance to it, he just cried, "QQ!" I therefore thought it pointless to reason with him.

As for your argument, in order to refute the "sorcerors are too weak without PC vs. PC charm", I'd have to go through a treatise on the overall balance of classes and I don't have the energy for it. Maybe someone else will. For my part, I'll just say two things.

First, overall class power is a combination of 1)ability kill someone without them getting away, 2) survivability in PK, 3) utility to self and other classes, 4) ability to "do" things in the game solo. I'm sure I've forgotten some, but that's a decent set of four. With charm weakened the way I'd like it to be, sorcerors might lose to warriors on #1, but they still win all of the other three. It's damned hard to land a kill on a sorceror who knows what they're doing.

Second, on that uber-melee damage you speak of, sorcerors have just as much access to that as warriors. Hell, a sorceror can cleave you to death, backstab you to death, bash you to death, etc. etc. I can understand if you'd like to have this change so sorcs weren't so NPC dependent, but unless it does, saying that a sorc without PC vs. PC charm becomes unplayable is a WEE bit hyperbolic.


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Yeah, God forbid a sorc has to get something besides a full mana pool to compete in PvP.

I suppose having to scroll up a few dozen Petrification scrolls and roll your face across the keyboard is a lot better. When I kill people, I typically have 90%+ ME.


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RP everything, just to be sure.


This.


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Parnys wrote:
I suppose having to scroll up a few dozen Petrification scrolls and roll your face across the keyboard is a lot better. When I kill people, I typically have 90%+ ME.


Sigh. I miss Chem's scroll ninja back in the day when there was no lag on scrolls and they were the level of the scriber. I am sure the log is floating around somewhere.


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