Shattered Kingdoms

Perhaps they were mistaken. I'm a newbie so pretty much everyone is more experienced than I am and I can't speak about past conditions.



This is part of the confusion that I am trying to resolve. Some things indicate that tribunals are police (such as the law code and inability to move troops freely) while others indicate that they are a military force (such as declaring war and the ability to attack other nations). Whichever they are, they should act that way and their troops/guards should be able to move accordingly.

Yeah, you've never been able to take guards into allied territory. But people used to go "war" with allies just so they could bring their law NPCs there to help them.

Tribunal apparently are the police force, and occasionally the government.

I don't have anything else to say on whether or not they should be permitted to cross into allied territory from an IC perspective. Never been in a tribunal myself. IRL though, you don't have the power to cross into an allied jurisdiction for military or law upholding purposes at will.

I agree with the OP that there are inconsistencies when it comes to tribunal guards. I think I have advocated for the ability to take tribunal guards with you in all territories besides kingdoms you are at peace with.

The IC rationale is that tribunal NPCs are paid to defend their homeland. This can be done either defensively, by staying in the Kingdom of origin, or by following their leader to War against another Kingdom. A PC leader of a tribunal is at the command of a NPC (Exile - Queen, Empire - Emperor, Zhenshi - Governor?.. etc.), subsequently, so are the guard NPCs.

Why die for another kingdom when we have problems of our own? Why needlessly fight elsewhere and leave the city unguarded?

I think the biggest issue with you bringing a guard into an allied territory to help with defence is that the coding would end up causing the group to end up fighting itself for breaking the laws of attempting murder. If I bring a guard in and by help to attack said enemy me and my guard have just broken the laws. So maybe its not an rp issue its a coding issue

NPCs can't get outlawed.

Losquez is banished from Taslamar.

One thing is obvious: The current arrangement is really unpopular.

My question is then why do some people support moving through neutral territory and others do not?

I do think that a military (if that is what tribunals are - I know the Peacekeepers answer to a judge and I think the Talon does too but I'm not sure about the others) force should be willing to march through neutral land. It clearly isn't a matter of "international treaty." Treaties are what the faction leaders make of them as seen by their ability to declare war and make alliances. If having someone march troops through your territory irritates you then it can/should become an RP point when you bring it up with them. Also, there can't be any sort of treaty barring movement through the unclaimed territories because they are unclaimed.

Also, if tribunal bodyguards really are bodyguards, then they should be sticking around their officer corps all the time. It is more dangerous when you leave your own lands, not less, and a bodyguard is there to make sure you don't get assassinated.



It's a good thing that Charm Person is outlawed too because otherwise summoning Losquez into town with the intent of charming him could have humorous side effects.

Maybe create another leader option that allows "open borders" with a country. That would be the best comprimise between all the factions.