Intimidate Issues

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:49 pm

haha

hi wala

and here I thought jhorleb was above that!

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:56 pm

This should be moved to gameplay. Since most of the thread is just whining about how the skill functions.

The only bug involved with intimidate is the same one that BoG has, it doesn't always break at the right times after landing.

Edoras' suggestion is a good one, if people are so worried about THE DREADED THIRD RANK HELLION.

I'm pretty sure there are more important gameplay balance issues, though. Like the sorc class.

jhorleb · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:08 pm

I think I agree with you on the part that's bugged/broken. That is, that it should stop protecting anyone who is currently attacking something (be it via melee, ranged, or spells).

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:11 pm

jhorleb wrote:

I think I agree with you on the part that's bugged/broken. That is, that it should stop protecting anyone who is currently attacking something (be it via melee, ranged, or spells).

Once someone is in melee, I agree that they should no longer be checking against intimidate to perform actions, unless that action is targeted.

I think if intimidate was changed to simply not work if the hellion was in the third row, it would be fine. It'd leave it up to the enemy to make sure the hellion is engaged.

I don't think people who AREN'T in melee should get a free bypass against intimidate just because the burly warrior in front of them managed to do so.

You don't get to ignore sanctuary just because the target is in melee.

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:37 pm

Quote:

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
You release Ithorim from your intimidate.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cannot bear to attack your mighty presence!
Ithorim punches at a nightmare's chest, making it cough up blood!
A noble, white horse bites at a nightmare's left foot, causing a minor wound.
A noble, white horse bites at a nightmare's chest, ripping open its stomach!
A nightmare misses Ithorim.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim mutters quietly.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim gets Mortenha's Bane from the robes of Infinite Wisdom.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim stops using a spiked targe.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
You release Ithorim from your intimidate.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim wields Mortenha's Bane in his hand.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

A nightmare dodges Ithorim's attack.
A noble, white horse misses a nightmare.
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
Ithorim dodges a nightmare's attack.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

A noble, white horse regains her footing.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

You dodge Ithorim's attack.
A noble, white horse cannot bear to attack your mighty presence!
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
A noble, white horse misses a nightmare.
A nightmare tries to charge at Ithorim's right leg, but its blow is deflected by a pair of stained diamond sabatons.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
You release a noble, white horse from your intimidate.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life:100% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cleaves at your chest, causing only a minor wound.
A noble, white horse bites a nightmare's head, carving open a bleeding hole!
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
A nightmare tries to charge at Ithorim's left arm, but its blow is deflected by a set of stained diamond pauldrons and rerebraces.

[Life: 94% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life: 94% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Ithorim starts to concentrate.

[Life: 94% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life: 94% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
Spell not found.

[Life: 94% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cleaves your chest, cutting a small but painful wound.
A noble, white horse wipes her boots in the face of a nightmare!
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
A nightmare misses Ithorim.

[Life: 90% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim utters the words, 'barh ay ohifl'.
Ithorim gestures and a bolt of glory bursts forth at you!
You weep in pain and despair as Ithorim's bolt of glory hits you.

[Life: 80% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim starts to concentrate.

oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o [Affects] Cyndane Bright Star, Baroness of Seawatch, Fright Knight o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Affect: 'protection' o
o Affect: 'detect hidden' o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

[Life: 80% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cleaves at your chest, causing a deep gash.
A noble, white horse bites at a nightmare's stomach, barely wounding it.
A noble, white horse strikes suddenly, biting at a nightmare's chest! Some GUTS fall!
A nightmare tries to charge at Ithorim's chest, but its blow is deflected by a stained diamond cuirass.

[Life: 75% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cannot bear to attack your mighty presence!

[Life: 75% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim cleaves your chest, causing a gaping wound!
A noble, white horse cannot bear to attack your mighty presence!
A noble, white horse bites at a nightmare's right toe, cutting it slightly.
A noble, white horse misses a nightmare.
A nightmare tries to charge at Ithorim's left arm, but its blow is deflected by a pair of stained diamond cannons and gauntlets.

[Life: 71% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

Ithorim starts to concentrate.

[Life: 71% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]
You say 'ooc rofl'

[Life: 71% Mind: 63% Move:100%][Thistle Fields]

if you are hitting the hellion, you should probably be immune to intimidate

Terrus · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:44 pm

Yeah that ain't right

ninja_ardith · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:21 pm **Posts:** 4452

So you can't cast a spell if intimidated.

[REDACTED], this skill is loopy.

Edoras · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:20 am

Like I said, the skill's only loopy because hellions who are in the 2nd row without a reaching weapon, or hellions in the 3rd row without a reaching weapon can still intimidate. If you remove the ability for a hellion who cannot reach over his own ranks to intimidate, the skill will be just fine IMO.

Rodwen · **Joined:** Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:22 pm **Posts:** 1648

Eh, I don't know. I think it should work as is as far as your comment is concerned. You see a group of guys walking around together, regardless of how they are grouped. One of them looks omfghella-scary, so you might be intimidated by that one person, again regardless of where he is in the group, so you cower in fear and suck on your thumb.

Edoras · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:47 am

I suppose I'm trying to make the most sense out of the helpfile according to intimidate which says that it works on the hellion's entire group and that it also only works on people in melee range.

From that description, it seems like intimidate should only work if opponents can be struck -by- the hellion, so someone in the third row should never be intimidated except maybe a rogue. That said, I've made plenty of posts in the past about how everyone in the -room- can be intimidated by the hellion and no change has been made to intimidate in a long time. The only problem I see that results from the current setup is that if the hellion can't be engaged in physical combat because of how he's placed himself, intimidate becomes way too powerful.

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