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 Post subject: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:44 pm 
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Thought I'd give an MR barb a go. Really wanted to play with that in the Crucies, and got nowhere. People who think MR are good are tripping. They must be annoying but to think they're actually good is crazy. Real (non-MR) is so much better in PvE and PvP. SO much better. Haste is still a dominant spell, and the MR barbs just sits there hoping they dispel it in PvP. Apart from shamans, who of course got a massive nerf.... (from a barb... which is odd) paladins must be somewhat miffed, but since so few darkie MR barbs exist they'll get over it as hammer MR barb is such an obvious combo.

Then I thought I'd give a merc with a massive weapon a go. Awesome when you get it right. Mercs are still my favourite by a long way. I loved Twei. I had fun ideas to stretch out, but even in his nascent form he produced a lot of fun and I thought I had it, but week after week goes on and certain things I've after don't come along....

Which leads me to the thing I really wanted to moan about. Cabal membership for a player that can't log a lot of hours.

First of all - cruxie - Venthekymi. Seriously? I don't think I could have done more to say I wanted Cruxie membership and you just wouldn't play along. No honest leadership, no direction. You must have got it.... do you just want me to say cruxieplzkthx? I'll never do that, yet "subtle" hints got nothing in answer. Seriously mental. Was my RP that bad - not judging by the other idiots that got in? You just seem to not play along and quite frankly to take pleasure in teasing me. Fine. 2 months playing for that and nothing left me pretty bitter. Recomend you don't tease past a week or two in future.

So I give up and reroll. Perhaps I get unlucky. I want to go harlies. I have a (to me) fascinating concept I want to work through, yet I want to get the backup before it goes wild. So I'm seeking harlies, I see other people getting in who have barely rolled a day back (see recent log on spider!?), but every harly I speak to for months (and not that many are known to me since I don't use YIM and am seriously only going on the info easily available in game) says they'll get back to me then goes silent and won't respond - you know who you are - whether you had leadership is beyond my knowledge.

Anyway, cabal membership seems to have gone the way of Aeolla back in the day. If you're not "in" you're not in.

So, frankly, just bored.

Best to Kyla and her alt, a few hammer I met that played it nice, and that's about it. I think there was a sprite bard I enjoyed being around too.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:58 pm 
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I think it just depends on the cabal and who is leading it. When I led the Hammer a few months back, I would induct people within 24 to 48 hours of them expressing interest in joining whenever possible. I prefer to induct quickly and then if the character has poor RP or doesn't fit in for whatever reason you can always remove them.

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with these characters - I really liked Aetolla back in the day. =)


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:11 pm 
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I don't know why you sound so upset. We had discussed on many occasions about both the cruci and what your char wanted to do with his life. I had even recommended you as a possible recruit to the cruci, but you never sounded definite to me. I had started to believe that you have another char into some cabal/tribunal and you just want to play along our side with this one. I am sorry that I misunderstood your intentions, but maybe too much subtlety is not the way to approach a matter as recruitment into a cabal.

Other than that, I greatly enjoyed Erindur. I possibly have not laughed more playing SKs. Thanks for the good memories.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:14 pm 
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Lykofos wrote:
I don't know why you sound so upset. We had discussed on many occasions about both the cruci and what your char wanted to do with his life. I had even recommended you as a possible recruit to the cruci, but you never sounded definite to me. I had started to believe that you have another char into some cabal/tribunal and you just want to play along our side with this one. I am sorry that I misunderstood your intentions, but maybe too much subtlety is not the way to approach a matter as recruitment into a cabal.

Other than that, I greatly enjoyed Erindur. I possibly have not laughed more playing SKs. Thanks for the good memories.


I hope this doesn't come off too critical, but you never bothered to send an OOC tell asking if she had a character in another tribunal or cabal? That is like leadership 101, and one of the first things I do when someone approaches me about membership.

I always assume characters are played by people new to SK who might not know you can only have one character in a faction. It is never good assume that a character is played by a veteran that knows all the ins and outs.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Never thought to do it before to be honest. I'll keep it in mind as a practice for the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:25 pm 
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rofl, if you honestly think MR barb is not better than non MR barb, you're tripping.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:43 pm 
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Leadership of cabals and tribunals is prohibited from stringing along prospective member for a period of longer than two weeks.

It's a rule.

If an organization and its leadership can't get to the bottom of your intentions and make a decision on you in that time, they're doing it wrong, and you should report them to the appropriate KD.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:55 pm 
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Meissa wrote:
Leadership of cabals and tribunals is prohibited from stringing along prospective member for a period of longer than two weeks.

It's a rule.

If an organization and its leadership can't get to the bottom of your intentions and make a decision on you in that time, they're doing it wrong, and you should report them to the appropriate KD.


This, this, and also more this. If leadership are being tools, report them for it. It's bloody brain damaged to mistreat prospective members, I don't care how evil your faction is supposed to be. It's detrimental to the health of the faction itself.

Also, rofl, wtf? Never thought to ask OOC about membership in other factions or clarify intent?! Seriously, as Finney said that's leadership 101. I'm pretty sure it's even part of the basics that're posted in stickies on the leadership boards. Another (unstated) rule about leadership is this: If you want your faction to be more than a footnote in your era of SK, recruit anyone and everyone that even remotely expresses the mildest of interest. If they don't like it, or end up not fitting properly, they'll delete or you'll remove them. Not being ACTIVE in your recruiting is how factions end up barren, and then completely dead.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:15 pm 
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SK Character: Theodoric
It's regrettable that this guy decided to be very subtle about his intentions but if neither side stopped and said "ooc wait are we understanding eahc other OOC?" it's silly to then come to the forums and complain about it. I have had very secretive characters before but since I typically trust other people to play nice and am an assertive on an OOC level I have no issues sending an OOC tell "hey, my char's [REDACTED] footing around, but I DO hope to make this happen". That said, when I do that, I follow it up with an "I understand if yours is too and get that it'll take longer than joe griffon who wants in the hammer, but please make time to play with me a bit more than usual when we're online together until something happens to make things click".

Twei had a lot of glaives in his backpack. Come back with another, you seemed like the kind of guy I'd want in my cabal.


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 Post subject: Re: Erindur and Twei
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:22 pm 
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Looking a little at old logs, I just realized that I was not even a leader in the cruci when Erindur was about. :-?


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